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Post by The All Mother on Mar 31, 2014 19:30:04 GMT -5
A Big Welcome To The New Faces: AellaAnumiBal'MaDominicEvelyn SchwarzIquilua 'ah KereshJojoMelonNephalosNevermoreNintaiNyxWolfgangXanti
Enjoy your stay and make some kick as-- nice little characters to play with<3 What We Need: We need some males and we need some race diversity.Get on that guys! Lawd. >:lOTM Nominations:Current Nominations For Member:
- Vltimecia Current Nominations For Female Character: - Amaranthae Lydi'Aleera Ehrendil Current Nominations For Male Character: - Tristan Vrannis Szandor Current Thread Nominations: - A Lone White Rose Nominations should be posted below. You may nominate one in each category. Voting will be held at a later date. Aging:
There has been proposed an aging concept: every 2 real time months characters would age 5 years. Specifics aside, what do you think? Should we implement an aging system?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2014 13:04:51 GMT -5
Hey there,
I strongly disagree with an aging system, for a few reasons. One, it would be rather unfair from an outside perspective. In a year and a half, many characters would die, but some - like dragons - wouldn't really be changed. Two, I believe that participants of this website all created the characters at specific ages for a reason. I know I did.
Concurrently, I agree with all the nominations in your post. :3
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Post by The All Mother on Apr 13, 2014 17:20:57 GMT -5
The aging system's specifics aren't set. The 2 month terms would be negotiable, to something like 6 months, a year, or whatever else we all agreed on. This way heirs to the throne would eventually get their chance, and the site could age to some degree together. This would allow for change to occur simultaneously, and characters couldn't live forever - that's unfair to more than just one species. All the princes/princesses etc. would never grow to receive a position, which is ultimately the goal of most of them. Also, two characters who were made at say age 25 would age the same. One would die of old age while the other ran around at 26 forever because the variable isn't set. Honestly, I see the pros and cons to both sides, but the aging system has more to do with it than just characters dying.
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Post by Leaf on Apr 13, 2014 18:29:13 GMT -5
I think Taz has a good point and this could be implemented in site-wide plots such as wars or what-have-you. Perhaps you could provide something in the karma store to avoid aging for one period (whatever we decide that to be). However, two months does seem a bit short for 5 years.
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Post by Astral on Apr 13, 2014 18:48:44 GMT -5
I can definitely see both sides to this (as someone with a middle aged king character with an heir). The only worry I have is finding the right balance for the timing of the aging system, as some people might not be happy with having a character they put a lot of effort into die of old age in just a years time, but at the same time, someone wouldn't want to wait a year to go from Prince > King. It's tough trying to please everyone xD
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Post by seiren on Apr 13, 2014 19:31:24 GMT -5
I believe it's a fairly good idea! Just not too sure about the 5 years in 2 months. I am a slow rper as is, so I'd rather a larger margin of time. If it is made available in the shop, however; to bypass the aging phases, I would definitely be a-okay with it x3 but that's just me and my 2-cents, I'll follow no matter what either way!
This is just a suggestion, take it as yah will! I just trying to hewp, lol, but maybe we could do season changes? Like every two months a season change occurs?
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Post by The All Mother on Apr 13, 2014 19:49:07 GMT -5
The thing about season changes is that some threads (most threads) last longer than 2 months (for example).
As far as characters dying, there IS an option in the store to bring a character back from the dead. It is a bit expensive, but that should be expected considering the gravity bringing someone back from the dead would bring. I do like the idea of allowing members to skip aging periods. That's definitely something to look into.
I agree with the 2 months being sort of short (it was an arbitrary number on my part), but of course that can be changed relatively easily.
I also like the aging system because of the idea of liquid time. In threads, you could time skip any time from 1 second to 4.9 years into the future and know you aren't leaving the rest of the site behind because in a month (or whatever we choose) everyone is going to age together anyway.
I really appreciate this feedback guys. I don't plan on making this change in the near future, but eventually I would like to. In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you all could come up with a time frame that you think would be reasonable. Giving the site some time to grow should help with that sort of decision. There will be more polls about this in the future ^^
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Post by seiren on Apr 13, 2014 19:54:31 GMT -5
Oh, I was thinking this would be changed right now xD in that case... I definitely agree on this! I'm no help on the aging chart though, I'll leave that up to someone smarting than me, lol. Anyways, love this place and love you all already, even though I don't know most of yah but that doesn't matter!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 16:55:53 GMT -5
I think the biggest concern I have is that there is no ratio of time that we could setup theoretically that could be fair to say, humans as well as dragons. I don't really want my character to be middle aged or old because 50 years passed, while the dragons are barely changed. Ultimately because of the diversity of the aging dynamic among the races, I really don't see a way to age the forum fairly.
Although you specified that two characters at age 25 would age the same, I wasn't sure what you meant in the sentence after that. But I think that if you do set a ratio of real time passed to forum time passed, it has to be equal for all characters to avoid inconsistencies with people's stories.
To conclude, like I stated earlier, I'm sure that the members of this forum made their characters a certain age for a reason, and would dislike having to deal with their characters growing old and dying.
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Post by seiren on Apr 14, 2014 17:29:01 GMT -5
Hmm, what if the different races all aged at a different rate. Dragons, since they are able to live so long, age more quickly than say a shapeshifter.
(this is just a real quick example, the number are just random numbers)
Dragons >> 1 month real time >> 1 year in game Dwarves >> 6 months real time >> 1 year in game Fairies >> 4 months real time >> 1 year in game Humans >> 3 months real time >> 1 year in game Nightwalkers >> 2 months real time >> 1 year in game Shapeshifters >> 5 months real time >> 1 year in game
This is just a rough little example, I really don't think we should equal it by years... I was just too lazy to calculate by months xD
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Post by The All Mother on Apr 14, 2014 18:58:50 GMT -5
Honestly? Life isn't fair. Perhaps I'm being a bit insensitive, but it's not like a real person dying and shouldn't be that traumatic. The fact that some races age slower is done on purpose. While I realize that this site sits heavily on the fantasy side, the idea that you're born and die is something I want incorporated and that seems to be an acceptable idea for most other members. There are ways (and would be others) to extend the life expectancy of characters, but eventually everyone has to pass on. C'est la vie.
While I see the logic behind having different aging criteria, I find it to be too inconsistent, complicated, and a bit unnecessary. Different races age differently - it's just the way it is. We can make the periods as long or as short as everyone wants, but a dragon will outlive a human. That's how it was originally intended, even before the aging concept. I'm open to exploring it further, but it would honestly take a lot of work to keep that system working fluidly - work I'm honestly not capable of putting into it at the moment. But that's just a small addition to the other issues I've listed above :3 ~
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Post by Astral on Apr 14, 2014 19:23:03 GMT -5
I don't intend to sound impolite with anything I say from this point on, so please take everything at face value and not personally. I can see you've set your heart on this idea but I can see members are going to be put off by the concept of their hard work going to waste down the line (And judging by the poll, most people seem to have this line of thought than think of it as an acceptable idea). Some people don't feel comfortable rping as a certain age group and like to stick with what they are used to - (there are some big differences to how a 17 year old would act compared to a 45 year old), and you may find you'll get an influx of the longer-lasting races in a bid to delay the aging process.
That being said, I love the idea of everyone having a common timeline - it will be easier to keep track of site-wide and personal plots whilst still rping in liquid time. If it can be executed well without the members feeling like they're losing out on something as important as character development, it will be a beautiful niche among the other proboard rp sites.
What about an interactive timeline? It would give the members more freedom to choose when their character fulfills important life events, and it can be available for everyone to see and compare how it relates to their own timeline? It can encourage people to make the important decisions themselves without feeling the mounting pressure of a deadline?
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Post by seiren on Apr 14, 2014 20:08:50 GMT -5
X3 I figured it'd be alot of work to uphold, just figured I'd throw it out there for the heck of it! Maybe it'll spark an even better idea <3
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Post by The All Mother on Apr 14, 2014 20:13:34 GMT -5
Despite the poll, from the responses I've seen it has been less to do with the idea and more to do with the number I arbitrarily put with the idea. Once again, the aging process isn't exactly a revolutionary concept, especially considering the fact that I've left the aging period open. If we choose to equate 5 real years to 5 aging years I would find that perfectly acceptable. Threads that have been started prior to the deadline passing wouldn't be effected by that world wide time jump, it would just be understood that outside of that thread the world has moved on to some degree. Threads are dated, so that wouldn't be hard to keep track of. Also, the ages I've suggested aren't exactly set in stone either. It's an average, meaning some individuals live far after the year I've set. There is a considerable amount of wiggle room here.
As far as an "interactive timeline", you'll have to explain that in greater detail - including how to manage its upkeep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 22:34:07 GMT -5
Tazi, 95% of the time has good idea's and knows what shes on about, aside the fact I did vote against it, after hearing now the whole detailed info on it it does seems kinda cool and eventually promotes new characters so its not the same old drow. I say ya give it a shot and if it sucks tell her, shes reasonable.
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